ROUGHLY EDITED COPY CUENet AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION DOGMATICS 2 LESSON 54 Captioning Provided By: Caption First, Inc. 10 E. 22nd Street Suite 304 Lombard, IL 60148 800-825-5234 *** This text is being provided in a rough draft format. Communication Access Realtime Translation (CART) is provided in order to facilitate communication accessibility and may not be a totally verbatim record of the proceedings. *** >> This is great. Everything you've shared with us has been so important and so exciting. But I would like to get back to something Eric started exploring a few minutes ago when he spoke of the Lord's Supper. Let me ask a question about Christology's relationship to the other sacrament. How is Christology related to baptism? >> DR. DAVID SCAER: I think one point where Lutherans are a little weak is that they explain all of the means of grace by saying they give the forgiveness of sins. Now, that's true. But each of the means of grace does it in a slightly different way. The Lord's Supper is very closely related to the atonement. We mentioned before that in the Lord's Supper we receive the body and blood which Christ sacrificed to God for our sins. So the Lord's Supper is to be understood by the atoning work of Christ. We actually enter into his atonement. And we receive his sacrifice. And as Luther said, "We pray that God will also sacrifice us with Christ." Baptism is slightly different. St. Paul says about baptism that we are buried into Christ's death and that we are raised in his resurrection. Baptism actually nails us to the cross together with Christ. Then we are put in the grave with him. And because we are -- we have been put in the grave with him, we have already been raised from the dead. That's a very strange concept. But Christians believe that even though they haven't died yet, they are already with Christ. And they have been raised with him. This was a very strong doctrine in the early church which led some to the conclusion that since the resurrection had already happened, they didn't have to believe in the physical resurrection anymore. That bap- -- the doctrine of baptism was so strong and it affected how they thought, that it was a real participation, Christ's death and resurrection, they thought that no, they weren't going to be raised from the dead physically. And so that's how we would make the distinction. The Lord's Supper takes us into the atonement. And baptism is more historical by taking us back to the historical event itself by which Jesus died and was buried and rose again. *** This text is being provided in a rough draft format. Communication Access Realtime Translation (CART) is provided in order to facilitate communication accessibility and may not be a totally verbatim record of the proceedings. ***