No. 20. >> In your answer to my question about the rapture, you said that dispensationalists have the idea that the Gospel of grace is different from the Gospel of the kingdom. And that it is comforting to know that they are wrong on that. What did you mean? >>DR. THOMAS E. MANTEUFEL: Oh, yes, I was talking about the notion of the dispensationalists that there will be conversions after the return of Christ. That is to say after the rapture happens. And that is they say there will be a mass conversion of the Jews at that time during the Great Tribulation period. And that these converted Jews then will also convert many Gentiles. And dispensationalists also believe that many conversions will take place during the time of the millennium itself. Because there will be all of those people who are children of unresurrected people and unglorified people living in the millennium. And those people will all need to be converted. And some so of them will not be converted. Now, I had made the point that according to the dispensationalist Bible, the Scofield Bible, there will be a different means of conversion. That is to say a different Gospel for conversion that will be used during the time after the rapture than what is now being used during the church period. So what Scofield says -- I'm talking about the Bible that was annotated by Cyrus Scofield, one of the great dispensationalist leaders. And according to him, the Gospel that will be used for conversions in the time after the rapture is called the Gospel of the kingdom. And that is to say all the passages of the Bible that talk about the Gospel of the kingdom are referring to this Gospel that is going to be used in that future time. That is to say he says in a footnote: This is the good news that God purposes to set up on the earth in fulfillment of the Davidic kingdom. A kingdom political, spiritual, Israelitus, universal over which God's Son, David's heir, shall be king. Which shall be for one thousand years. The manifestation of the righteousness of God in human affairs. Scofield also says in his Bible that there are to be two preachings of this Gospel. Two occasions on which it is preached. One has already happened. That was the preaching that was done during the ministry of John the Baptist, who was preparing people for the kingdom that was intended to be set up right then and there in the lifetime of Jesus. And that's called the Gospel of the kingdom in the Gospel accounts. However, the dispensationalists say that because the Jews did not cooperate with Christ and proceed to set up the kingdom together with him, the kingdom was postponed. And so the Gospel of the kingdom was discontinued at that time. And now there is to be another use of that Gospel, another preaching of it or a second stage of the preaching of it, will take place after the time of the rapture in order to prepare people to live in that kingdom which Christ is setting up now during the millennium. This Gospel of the kingdom is a kingdom in terms of kingship only. That is to say it teaches that one is to recognize Christ as king and submit to him and his kingdom. And also that the Gospel of the kingdom says that this kingdom is to be established by power and not by persuasion. By the power of Christ. Not by persuasion. And in this respect it stands in marked contrast with the Gospel of the grace of God, which is now being used to bring people to God, to Christ, in the church dispensation. So Scofield says this, meaning the Gospel of the grace of God, is the good news that Christ Jesus, the rejected king, has died on the cross for the sins of the world. That he was raised from the dead for our justification. And that by him all that believe are justified from all things. That's the Gospel that is being used now. And it is a Gospel which calls people to be saved purely by grace alone. However, the Gospel of the kingdom, which shall be used after the rapture by the evangelizing preachers is Scofield says in his Bible pure law. And he explains this by saying there's not a ray of grace in it. Not a drop of blood, Christ's blood, in that. And so in other words, the Gospel of the grace of God, according to Scofield's Bible, is the Gospel for the church age. And the Gospel of the kingdom was preached before the cross came about and before the church age, during which the Gospel of the cross is to be preached. And the preaching of the Gospel of the kingdom is to be resumed after the church age ends, after the rapture. And so in other words, what he's saying is that there will come a time when people will be saved in some other way than the grace of God. In some other way than the blood atonement of Christ. Dispensationalism then has often been criticized by its critics for mixing grace and works in this regard in saying that there will come a time when it will be possible for people to be saved apart from the grace of God. And that's a false doctrine of grace to say that there's a possibility of that in the future. And this is what I was talking about earlier. There certainly would be no comfort in that kind of Gospel. That is the Gospel of the kingdom, which would simply be really a Gospel of law. Because no Christian could actually be saved by it. No Christian can be saved by his own works. That's a basic Bible truth. And certainly that great multitude that's described in the book of Revelation in Chapter 7 was saved not by some Gospel that was -- that just had law in it or that didn't have any grace in it. But they were certainly saved by grace and by Christ's atonement. Because that's specifically said in Revelation 7:14: These people dressed in white robes in the vision are those that have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb. Now, that's the way of salvation by grace through the blood of Christ. Dispensationalists want to say that in the time after the rapture the Jews will be converted by the Gospel of the kingdom, the law Gospel. And also that they then will use that same Gospel of the kingdom to convert these Gentiles who are -- who supposedly are the multitude arrayed in white that's described in this vision. But that cannot be. Because it is said here that these people with robes of white are people that have not been saved by the law in some way. But rather, they are people who are saved by the blood of Christ.